LilSparky's Workshop

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LilSparky's Workshop adds auction-derived pricing information for trade skills right into the trade skill recipe frame. Each skill is evaluated for material costs and potential value of the item created. These two numbers are listed next to each skill in an easy-to-read format.

Supported Auction Scanners:

Auctioneer
AuctionLite
AuctionMaster
Auctionator

Optionally Requires:

Informant (for vendor availability)

LibPeriodicTable (for vendor availability)

Trade Skill Interfaces Supported:

GnomeWorks
AdvancedTradeSkillWindow
Skillet
Blizzard's Standard UI
Doublewide Tradeskills
Tradeskill HD

Auction pricing models can be selected by right-clicking either the value column or the cost column (each can have a different pricing method attached).

The Value column can be left clicked to cycle through the different valuation methods for the resultant item: Auction Value (a), Vendor Value (v), Disenchant Value (d) or the greatest of the three different values (the default). Any instance of an item Value being greater than the Cost to create it will have a highlighted Value entry. Optionally, the Value column can be displayed as a percentage of the Cost column.

The Cost column simply sums up the costs for each reagent and reports the total.

Both columns can be combined into a single "Profit" column which simply reflects the Value minus the Cost.

Tooltips for each column give more details about the price breakdowns LSW is considering.

A note regarding vendor availability:

LSW utilizes supplied item databases to determine when an item is readily available from a vendor. Occasionally this may not be accurate, usually because the item is a trade in for another item and not buyable with gold. I have provided a simple way to over-ride the vendor database:

/script LSWConfig.vendorOverride[item#] = (true/false/nil)

The item# is the item ID for the specific item. It is a single number. For example, 2589 is Linen Cloth.
Setting the value to "true" means the item is available at the vendor.
Setting the value to "false" means the item is not available at the vendor.
Setting the value to "nil" means to use the provided databse.

There is now also a right-click option to override the vendor availability and also to hand enter specific prices for items.

A note about frame/auction support:

LSW utilizes a plug in scheme to handle support to handle pricing and frame support. I am unlikely to add additional plugins directly into LSW. The goal of the plugin system is to provide basic templates that other addon authors could employ to provide LSW support on their end while at the same time providing functionality for a base set of common mods. Addon authors are free to contact me regarding the plugin system if issues arise or the system doens't make sense.

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Posted Dec 14, 2009
I love the addon, but have a suggestion. More options to pull price info from. For example, Going Price(wow head/allakhazam), WoWecon, ect. ect. ect. While pulling the information from the AH makes sense. This is not very accurate, because some people try to sell things that are worth 20 silver for 200 gold.

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Posted Dec 14, 2009
the problem with off-line data is that it's not specific to your realm. ah data is only a guideline, as you use the ah more and more, you can gauge just how accurate it really is. also a good auction mod will filter outliers like items being listed for 1000x what they should be.

that said, i can easily add additional data sources. i believe auctioneer itself has a wowecon module, so you can use wowecon prices with lsw if that module is loaded. going price appears to be bugging out currently, but i'll assume that be sorted out.

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Posted Dec 13, 2009
Every time I craft I get a huge lag spike as LSW displays a progress bar at the top, that goes away and I craft another item... this adds approximately 1 second to each craft i do... do I have something configured wrong?

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Posted Dec 14, 2009
do you have altoholic installed? i've heard people complain about lags with lsw when altoholic is installed.

honestly, i think the lag exists outside of lsw but since lsw pops a progress bar, it gets makes the lag very obvious whereas without a bar, a lag while crafting might not be so obvious.

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
I got an issue with LSW where the addon freezes the game to solid - only killing it from the Task Manager helps. It does that while the tradeskill windows are closed (!), so I have no idea what is the trigger (maybie I'm getting an ingame mail, as when I restart the game I got a new mail all the time, but that's a far guess as I'm doing mass auctions all the time, and not all mails are crashing the game). Can you please help me find and possibly solve the problem?

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
how do you know it's lsw that's causing the problem? does it show anything on screen when it happens? what is the trigger that causes the freeze?

i've seen tradeskill frames freeze the client before. normally it's a case of trying to get tradeskill data when it's not cached locally and simply retrying over and over again instead of waiting till the data is available. this occurs usually after patches when the local cache is cleared. i don't think lsw would do that, but it's possible.

what tradeskill frame do you use?

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
there's no edit feature so i'll add this... the good news is that after you've played for a while, your local cache should fill up and you this won't happen anymore regardless of which mod is causing it. in fact, you can help it along my turning off your tradeskill mods and just using the default ui to browse your skills for a few minutes in a quiet city somewhere. that'll get the data from the server back to your local cache, then you can reenable your mods and be happy again.

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Posted Dec 13, 2009
Well, I'm not 100% sure LSW is the problem, just if I disable it, it doesn't happen, if I enable it, it does, even when I only keept my absolutely necessary addons for raiding (TotemTimers, Grid, Clique, DXE), so I'm quite sure.

I have no clue about the trigger. First time the raid was about to pull Marrowgar, clicked yes on ready check, and boom! CTRL-ALT-DEL -> task manager -> kill wow.exe (And my mic was turned off on Vent, so they pulled before I had the chanse to tell them to stop..) Second time I was idling in Orgrimmmar. Third time I was browsing AH. 4th I was enchanting a guildmate's armor. And so on.

So now I'm enabling LSW just for those 5-15 min I need it, then relog to disable it.

I don't think the cache would be the problem, as all items possible should have been cached the first time I opened the tradeskill window. I use the default tradeskill UI.

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Posted Dec 13, 2009
weird. lsw should essentially be idle until it gets a trade_skill_update event. it should only ever do any processing when the trade skill window is open. if somehow it decided to process something with the window closed, maybe that would cause some kind of endless loop... but then, you had to have your enchant window open to enchant your friend's armor so that can't be it.

the tradeskill frame doesn't actually cache everything right away, but if you've been on and off and browsing tradeskills, i would expect that the cache should be okay by now...

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Posted Dec 21, 2009
i'm getting very similar behavior. i login and wow dies with an out of memory error. i disable lsw and skillet and no problems. never had this happen before. something must have changed. i'm going to leave them disabled for a while to see if the cache refresh fixes the problem. a quick browse of all skills didn't fix the issue.

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
I always do get "NO DE" for Items, I can produce. Enchantrix is loaded, and I do get presented the Value for disenchanting in the tooltip, but the value does not get picked up. I am running the german client, so I think this is some localization problem. How is the disenchant-value determined? In my tooltip the Disenchantvalue is called "Entzauberungswert".

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
"no de" actually means it doesn't work on the german client -- sorry.

just kidding.

i actually use my own disenchant data at this point and it's all itemID based, so localization shouldn't be an issue. the fact that it allows for a de value indicates that it at least knows the de module is loaded, but for some reason it's not working for you... i'll have to look into this one. i can't think of any reason it would fail like this.

actually, maybe i do... do you have personal craftability enabled? if you aren't an echanter (or don't have the proper level) i think lsw won't consider those items for de'ing. this is actually an unintended side effect of the craftability recursion system, so i'll make sure that this is fixed (if this is actually the problem).

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Posted Dec 13, 2009
I am the disenchanter myself, so it should work...

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Posted Dec 13, 2009
try toggling the personal craftability flag anyway. if it changes things, at least i have an idea of where to start looking.

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Posted Dec 10, 2009
First off I would like to say this is one of my favorite addons and with that said please update this. :)

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Posted Dec 12, 2009
if you're concerned about it being "out of date" you can either just load out of date addons or even change the .toc file to be version 30300. the next time i upload a new version, i'll be sure to update the toc, but i don't like updating it just to update it. i don't believe anything has changed in the api that needs to be altered in lsw, so it should work as well under 3.3 as it works in 3.2.

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Posted Dec 2, 2009
I've been using this addon for a long time, and I love it dearly. I've been having a consistent issue with it that doesn't seem to go away. I've even re-installed the game since it first started occurring, but that didn't help. It happens whether or not I use the Blizzard tradeskills UI, and even though I get this error, the addon still appears to work. Here's the dump I got.

Date: 2009-12-02 22:56:15
ID: 1
Error occured in: Global
Count: 1
Message: ...ace\AddOns\LilSparkysWorkshop\lilsparkysworkshop.lua line 1484:
attempt to compare number with nil
Debug:
[C]: ?
...ace\AddOns\LilSparkysWorkshop\lilsparkysworkshop.lua:1484: SkillButtonShow()
...Ons\LilSparkysWorkshop\frameSupport\atsw_support.lua:23:
...Ons\LilSparkysWorkshop\frameSupport\atsw_support.lua:23
[C]: Show()
AdvancedTradeSkillWindow\atsw.lua:734:
AdvancedTradeSkillWindow\atsw.lua:643
...Ons\LilSparkysWorkshop\frameSupport\atsw_support.lua:42: ATSWFrame_Update()
AdvancedTradeSkillWindow\atsw.lua:301: ATSW_CheckForTradeSkillWindow()
[string "*:OnUpdate"]:1:
[string "*:OnUpdate"]:1
AddOns:
FonTabulous, v3.2
Swatter, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AdvancedTradeSkillWindow, v
Altoholic, v3.2.002b
AtlasLoot, vv5.08.09
AtlasLootFu, vv5.08.09
AucAdvanced, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucDb, v5.1.DEV.3583
AucFilterBasic, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucFilterOutlier, v5.6.4424.2531
AucMatchUndercut, v5.6.4424.2531
AucScanData, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatClassic, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatHistogram, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatiLevel, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatPurchased, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatSales, v5.6.4424.2842
AucStatSimple, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatStdDev, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucStatWOWEcon, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilAHWindowControl, v5.6.4424.3311
AucUtilAppraiser, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilAskPrice, v5.6.4424.3175
AucUtilAutoMagic, v5.6.4424.3142
AucUtilCompactUI, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilEasyBuyout, v5.6.4424.3583
AucUtilFixAH, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
AucUtilItemSuggest, v5.6.4424.3108
AucUtilPriceLevel, v5.6.4424.2545
AucUtilScanButton, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilScanFinish, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilScanProgress, v5.6.4424.2530
AucUtilSearchUI, v5.6.4424.3655
AucUtilSimpleAuction, v5.6.4424.0
AucUtilVendMarkup, v5.6.4424.2530
Auditor2, v4.3.2
Babylonian, v5.1.DEV.130
Bartender4, v4.4.1
BeanCounter, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
BigWigs, v3.1
Broker2FuBar, v1.0
BrokerAuditor, v4.3.2
ButtonFacade, v3.2.285
ButtonFacadeCaith, v3.2.55
Chinchilla, vv2.0.8
Clique, vwowi:revision
Configator, v5.1.DEV.130
CowTip, v
CTViewport, v3.200 (CTMod 3.2)
DataStore, v3.2.002b
DataStoreAchievements, v3.2.002
DataStoreAuctions, v3.2.002
DataStoreCharacters, v3.2.002
DataStoreContainers, v3.2.002
DataStoreCrafts, v3.2.002
DataStoreCurrencies, v3.2.002
DataStoreInventory, v3.2.002
DataStoreMails, v3.2.002
DataStorePets, v3.2.002
DataStoreQuests, v3.2.002
DataStoreReputations, v3.2.002
DataStoreSkills, v3.2.002
DataStoreSpells, v3.2.002
DataStoreStats, v3.2.002
DataStoreTalents, v3.2.002
DebugLib, v5.1.DEV.130
Enchantrix, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
EnchantrixBarker, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
FuBar, v
FuBarFriendsFu, v2.4.4-103
FuBarGuildFu, v2.4.4-117
GatherMate, vv1.21
GoGoMount, v0003020600
Grid, v1.30200.2009081101
IceHUD, v1.5.15 (Revision: 447)
Informant, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
LibRock10, v
LilSparkysWorkshop, v1.00
Mapster, v1.2.3
MikScrollingBattleText, v5.4.66
Omen, v3.0.8
OneBag3, vv3.3.10
Postal, v3.2.2
Prat30, v3.2.10
Prat30Libraries, v
Recount, v
Routes, vv1.2.7
SatrinaBuffFrame, v3.1
ScreenGrid, v
SlideBar, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
Stubby, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
TomTom, vwowi:revision
TourGuide, v3.2.0.55
BlizRuntimeLib_enUS v3.2.2.30200 <us>
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Posted Dec 12, 2009
there are occasional nil's that come back from the tradeskill api -- usually after a patch. i try to catch them all, but some slip thru... i'll see about nil-proofing that line.

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Posted Dec 16, 2009
Tyvm for replying and looking into it!

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Posted Nov 13, 2009
I notice that this mod uses "market price" from Auctioneer to figure money amounts. But since my market fluctuates so darn fast, I'd rather LilSparky use the minimum/cheapest buyout price from the most recent and current AH scan. Is this possible to do? In other words, knowing the item's market price is useless to me, I'd rather know what the cheapest buyout is right now so that I can undercut it. Please help =)

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