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Do you guys know yet if grid2 will be adapted to midnight or do we need to start planning to move away from this amazing tool? 

i  plan to maintain grid2 for next expansion, assuming blizzard does not restrict addons API in a way that makes impossible to adapt the addon.

love to hear that! hopefully you (and all the other raid-frame-addon-authors) can maintain and adapt the (their) addon! using grid2 for what seems forever (i think since wotlk) i whould really be sad to not being able to use this because of blizzard!

and again: THX to you and the team for maintaing grid2 over the years!

Hurray! I hardly use any addons anymore but I don't see myself getting rid of grid.

I know it's early days but is there any expectation of what functionality might be lost? I have my hots as timers in each unit-frame of various colors and wasn't sure if the API won't allow addons to see what the buff is anymore.

Just came to check status having hopped into Beta. Super glad to hear it'll be continued for Midnight! I've been trying to use default frames or some other addons (RFS specifically) and they're just not a tenth of the functionality I like from Grid.

So happy to see this.

Ading myself to this issue to follow along, as it looks like the raidframe I use today, is being abandoned with Midnight.
Looking for a new frame to move to, even it just lets me adjust the look feel a bit of the existing blizzard frames, where are so huge and clunky.

I made some advances and the addon at least it can run now in beta, but the added restrictions are severe: multibars/stacked bars indicators cannot work, colors and/or square indicators to mark buffs/debuffs/dispells cannot work.

Only some icons to displays buffs and debuffs can be displayed and the information is decided by blizzard, no useful filters can be applied.

And more important,  currently there is critical/basic information that cannot be displayed by addons, like who has dispellable debuffs.

Currently the only raid frames addon than can display all  required information to heal non-trivial content is: the blizzard raid frames.

Blizzard promised  to add some API to filter/display buffs and debuffs in some useful way.

So i think its not worth to publish any alpha version yet, waiting next blizzard move.

I know you're not keen on releasing an alpha version, but I'd be super interested in trying it out.
(even if I have to manually download it from source)

2 of my "party frames" addons are either silent or are already committed to not updating.

So I'm looking to transition now so I'm rocking into midnight.

I don't use a lot of features ... I just hate how big the blizzard raid frames are ... and want to get my ui back to close to what I like to have.

Pre-Alpha versions are stored in source github grid2 repository in "midnight" branch.

But  It is not ready to be pusblished yet.

And in a few days blizzard is going to apply a new midnight beta patch, the new patch adds even more restrictions, so most of the new code and fixes i added in this version will be useless/broken.

In summary i wasted hours of work in the midnight beta, and i have to start from scratch with some basic features, that currently I don't even now if they are possible to implement due to the new incoming restrictions.

With the last  loosning of the addon API restrictions is there any progress towards the addon  ( as is there a functional version of the addon to test?) or is it just still the same as before? I'm still hoping to keep my current UI. Ty in advance

There is no loosening in the addon api restrictions, at least for important things. We cannot even display or hide basic things that default blizzard frames can, only some examples:

- Your party/raid use Heroism/Bloodlust in a encounter  ?

You will see the Exhaustion debuff icon for the rest of the combat, because there is no way to hide that useless debuff info, correction:  we can hide the debuff, but then other really important combat debuffs are hidden too.

-You are a druid and want to see a green border or a green mark when a player has a poison debuff, dispelable by your class. Not possible without a nasty bruteforce workaround than can tank your computer performance.

-You wan to see a status text like in default blizzard frames: Displaying by default the player current health that can be replaced by the heal-incoming value if some heals are going to land on a player, bad luck, because its not possible to know if there are incoming heals on the players, to replace the default text.

After this rant, i have a semi working version in my computer and github, but probably will crash with non-midnight profiles. I have to fix a lot of things, some things i dont even know howto fix. Im really spending most of the time redoing and fixing the same things blizzard is changing/breaking every week.

Screenshot from midnight beta in provind grounds:

I admire you for trying to keep this going, while sharing your frustration with current API changes and in general how sloppy the whole transition is being handled by them. I do not understand how it will be a "combat advantage" if I can just filter, customize or do anything I want with the buff that I, as the player, have casted on unit frames

should we start compiling a list of spells that need to be whitelisted along with features that are extremely useful for healers and share it on uidev discord? 

Uploaded Grid2 3.0.0-beta version to CurseForge.

 do we provide feedback here, or on GH?

Both webs are good for me.

The default UI shows personal defensives separately in the middle of the frame. Is this feature something that is only available to Blizz or can it be added to Grid

Hi there, thank you for updating the addon for midnight.  I am testing a bit in follower dungeons in beta: I chose the blizzard setting during 1st login.

1. Earthshield buff is seen on my group members but I cannot see it on myself.

2. I tried to create a defensive indicator  but it is not working.  I made an entry (named externals) under indicator, buffs. Then made an indicator named external defensive and selected the buffs: externals under statuses tab. 

https://imgur.com/a/WTWct6t

Will post more as I use it, thank you!

just a small update here, everything seems to work great on live now except for one thing.

base ui only shows things like sated out of combat, but grid2 is showing it everytime. 

So you either have to see sated 24/7 + other debuffs like nexus-prince trinket. 

or you can remove sated with "show only dispellable debuffs", but then you can't track the trinket. 

is it possible to change?

based on his answers to other issues, it seems the inconsistency between what default UI does and Grid2 is caused by severe restrictions imposed by Blizzard on AddOns. 

Their silly approach of nuking everything to catch a cockroach is infuriating me more and more everyday.

the health on my bars doesn't seem to change when i take damage, not sure if its the theme or just in general.

update was pushed that fixed my issue atleast :) works great now

You can try grid2 3.0.10 or higher versions: In latest versions there are extra filters options in:

Statuses->Buffs->Relevant and Statuses->Debuffs->Relevant

Now you can select "Buffs from Blizzard Unit Frames", "Defensive buff from Blizzard Unit Fames" or "Debuffs from Blizzard unit Frames" to display the same buffs/debuffs displayed by blizzard unit frames.

In Statuses->Buffs and Statuses->Debuffs, on the right panel,  there are an option to create new buffs or debuffs groups, for example to create a new defensive buffs group status and display the defensive buffs in another place/indicator.

shields-overflow does not appear to be working as a bar, only as a line.

Correct, i did not find a way to display a shield-overflow amount in midnight, as far as i know this information is not provided by the game.

Is there a meaningful way to tell Blizzard that this would be a desired API? It should just be a pretty simple math equation of "Shield% minus Missinghealth%" with a floor of 0. I really enjoyed the "shields-overflow" feature and will miss it a lot.

Any idea why i cant set up buffs at all? Theres no Indicator in my buffs to attach, so even tho i can see the options for what buffs to display i cant set them to actually show anywhere

Hello,

Thanks for all your work, have been using Grid 2 since forever!  Decided to stay with Grid2 with Midnight and start a new profile from scratch to avoid any old settings I have had from 15+ years.

I managed to get my shields to work after reversing bar3 (health bar multibar).  Then changed bar 4 (shield-overflow) to anchor to previous bar.   Might have been because I prefer to Invert my Main Bar (Health-bar)?  I couldn't get shields to work with the default Grid2 setup.  So I created a different multibar and played around with that one and after figuring out, changing the default health-bar to what I had done on my own.  

Quick Request if possible?  Is it possible to have X Offset and Y Offset for Countdown Text?  Only have the option for Stack text, but would love to move my countdown text a tad so they don't overlap as much. 

Edit: Guess I'm full of requests. Here are two more, lol. 

1st:  Is it possible to hide my Power Word: Fortitude buff (priest class buff)?  Shows up in relevant, buffs from blizzard frames and buffs applied by me.  My other co-healers are using another addon. "DF" and that somehow does it.

2nd: Any chance to have a missing buffs category? I know with the API restrictions it only works out of combat and doesn't work in M+.    But another function that "DF" has somehow.  

Thank you :)

I doub it,  blizzard does not like addons displaying more information than the base UI. We dont even can replicate the basic blizzard raid frames behaviour in an official way, we have to rely on tricks.

There is a discord server: "WowUIDev" mainly for addon developers, there you can ask blizzard for changes, but i stoped asking things there, im too tired of begging for basic features.

 Okay, thanks.  Before I got around moving countdown with using OmniCC and detecting grid2 frames and then adjusting. But trying to cut down on addons this time around.  

Zuriell101, my previsous post was an answer to  the lerker3 questions, not to your post. When i was writing my answer to Zueriell11, curseforge was not showing me, your post.

Answer to Zuriell101:

i have plans to add more configuration settings for Countdown Texts,  but i don't know when, midnight restrictings broke too many features i have to fix.

Im not going to implement the missing buffs and the removal of buffs in combat yet, because this requires a trick than can be fixed by blizzard, so im going to wait for a blizzard decission/actions: im tired of  wasting time implementing things that are removed/blocked by blizzard on the next patch.

Answer to Kiramon:

Probably you are using your old profile: the new buffs and debuffs statuses can only be attached to icons (plural) indicators. So you need to create icons(plural) indicators in your profile.

Or you can create a new profile:

Goto General > Profiles , in the "new profile" option type a new profile name,  push okay, and select a profile template, new profiles are already preconfigured to display buffs and debuffs icons.

Thanks a ton for all your work! Really appreciate it.

Thanks for a great addon!

I want to have rejuvenation in top right corner and lifebloom for example in top left corner. I am scratching my head and it seems imposibble.

Can i achieve that or is it imposibble right now?

Thanks.

mariouscostache3 Impossible, this is the whole point of the new midnight restrictions, blizzard does not want this kind of customization because they think is an unfair advantage.

thank you very much for the fast answer. damn, now i am out of ideeas on how to set it up.

You can goto profiles tab and create a a new profile.

There you can select one of 3 profile templates, classic, modern and blizzard. Those profiles are already preconfigured, so you can use them or maybe get ideas from there to create your own customized profile.

yea, thanks, already managed to get something i like. keep up the great work. without grid2 my resto druid whould be sad.

Is there a way to track atonement for my Disc priest?

Thank you for all the work! I love grid2 since BfA. I got the problem that germination is not shown as buff with my resto druid. I see rejuvenation but not germination - exact name is Rejuvenation (Germination).

Addons have almost no control over the buffs displayed in Midnight

You can goto statuses->Buffs->Relevant and enable the option "Get Buffs from blizzard frames", this will gather the buffs from the blizzard raid frames instead of asking the game directly,  but if the blizzard default raid frames are not showing those buff too,  then bad luck, its a blizzard decission to hide those buffs, and addons can do nothing about this.