How do you like the new layout?

  •   7.7% - What new layout? - 50
  •   36.8% - It's Awesome! - 238
  •   25.4% - It's good and bad, but mostly good. - 164
  •   5.4% - It's good and bad, but mostly bad. - 35
  •   14.6% - I want the old one back! - 94
  •   10.2% - Bring in the penguins! - 66

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  • Avatar of Leialyn Leialyn Jun 18, 2009 at 15:24 UTC - 0 likes

    The old one had style but I don't like the new design, all those soft bubble tabs and gradients and rounded corners together with those coffee colors, feels strange somehow.

  • Avatar of ckknight ckknight Jun 18, 2009 at 13:54 UTC - 0 likes

    @AesirRising it's odd that you're getting scrolling issues with Firefox, as I've tested extensively in FireFox (3.0.11) and don't have those issues. For the BBCode selection thing, file a ticket, it seems viable to me.

    @bsides It's not supposed to be all that flashy, I like the calm and the cleanness to it all. If you have any specific suggestions on how to make it better, I'm more than willing to listen. Also, I made the Web 2.0 jab because everyone says they're Web 2.0 nowadays. Rounded corners just make it "seem" Web 2.0. I'm pretty sure Web 2.0 is "you make the content, we make the money", but don't hold me to that.

    @x87bliss I'll be looking into the IE8 bugs soon.

  • Avatar of AesirRising AesirRising Jun 18, 2009 at 13:48 UTC - 0 likes

    Mouse wheel vertical scrolling of the pages is degraded. I find that my eyes cannot track the page as effectively, because they lose their reference point as the page widgets try to redraw. I think it's the widgets not rendering as fast as the old site page template. Browser choice might be at play here - I use the current Firefox release.

    I voted good and bad, but mostly good. Some of the design features will make things more legible. I've not used the site long enough to determine if there is improved eye-relief or not. The old site was fine, but aesthetically, it looked dated, so I suppose change was inevitable.

    This is from my initial gut response based upon about 60 seconds of using the new site (but I think initial response/ first impression is a valid basis for feedback).

    One improvement I'd like to see is the default markup be user selectable and saved across sessions (via cookies?). I'd prefer BBCode to WikiCreole, and would love to be able to set that and forget it. In particular, this useful to me when I'm posting bugs/comments on addons - which I do on a daily basis.

  • Avatar of bsides bsides Jun 18, 2009 at 09:59 UTC - 0 likes

    I agree that it's... very very very generic.

    I use Firefox but I'm a webdesigner so I know what is the feeling of people coming and saying it's all squared. It won't stop until you fix it. And hey, it's just the first problem, it's too generic in very other ways and faulty in color scheme severelly.

    A change of layout is good and I believe that's why it has more votes for "It's Awesome". Worry about the other votes, because for me they all say "It's not really new" or even "It's unexpected and not desireable". The sum of other votes is 77 against 66 "It's Awesome". So much doubt from the people, uh?

    If I were you would hire a better webdesigner. This and a warez site looks the same. Or wait, a ready-to-go uncustomized php cms/wiki/forum. Urgh!

    EDIT: No, rounded corners do NOT make this web 2.0. Read about the web 2.0 concept, please.

  • Avatar of Reanmachine Reanmachine Jun 18, 2009 at 09:58 UTC - 0 likes

    Chrnotic: Read the Announcement Comments, Kaelten said it was coming all in due time.

  • Avatar of Chrnotic Chrnotic Jun 18, 2009 at 07:15 UTC - 0 likes

    Except from the jittering graphics, it's looks pretty decent. Hell even iphone's opera mini browser does the job!. I understand about the babyblue color scheme, but what about the forum board? In due to time or.... working as intended *snort*.

  • Avatar of Reanmachine Reanmachine Jun 18, 2009 at 06:23 UTC - 0 likes

    BTW, for all of you who are confused about the lack of rounded corners. Get a real browser, IE (even IE8) is so rediculously behind the times...

    The site is using CSS3 which isn't supported by IE to make rounded corners, it looks plain because of this. Use Firefox / Chrome / Opera to view the site and you'll understand.

    Edit: Here's a screenshot of what it should look like: Image...

    From what I recall from talking to ckknight, IE isn't really officially supported past basic functionality but don't quote me...

  • Avatar of x87bliss x87bliss Jun 18, 2009 at 04:37 UTC - 0 likes

    I'm not sure how I feel about the color scheme. It seems... off... I think it's the blue.

    Also, as I'm typing this comment the comment box is growing huge. Adding lines with almost every character I type. I used ctrl+shift+end to make sure there wasn't any invisible whitespace.

    Last complaint is some of the "headers," like the thing that says "Post a comment" right now. They are stored in boxes above the related area. Those boxes usually partially obstruct the object above them. I will take a snap shot right now to show you... pressing ctrl+a to show highlight.

    This is on IE 8, on Vista 32-bit.

    Edit: Actually allowing Flash to run hasn't fixed anything. However, running it on Firefox has. Unfortunately, I hate Firefox. I actually saw how the web-site is supposed to look on Firefox though, and it seemed better. Still not feeling the blue though.

    Edit 2: Using IE 8's "Compatibility Mode" fixes the header objects obstructing other things on the page. However, the "rounded corners" are still square. I am not begging for a fix though, just supplying information. No sense in reprogramming a website for one faulty browser if it is IE's fault.

  • Avatar of yess yess Jun 18, 2009 at 03:48 UTC - 0 likes

    The new layout looks like for a 3 year old -.-
    I want the old one back!

  • Avatar of Phanx Phanx Jun 18, 2009 at 03:03 UTC - 0 likes

    It looks very generic. I clicked on a link in a subscription notification email, and initially thought I'd mistakenly been directed to a "search spam portal" website.

    The gray gradient tabs with dark gray text are extremely difficult to read even at 200% zoom. Overall, the contrast is even worse than the old layout. The condensed forms of Arial are less readable than the more open, rounded forms of Verdana, even at high magnification. Verdana was designed explicitly for on-screen viewing; Arial was not.

    I don't see any of the rounded corners mentioned in the announcement, just squares and gradients and a bunch of different shades and things that look like buttons but aren't even interactiable (like the "Post a comment" header above the box I'm typing in).

    The category listing is inefficient, especially at high magnification. The thumbnails of varying sizes and dimensions look sloppy. The category icons are too big and are less usable than a text listing of categories, since I have to mouse over each one to figure out that the "yellow man" icon represents the "Class" category or the priests' Greater Heal spell icon represents the "Healer" category. The "snippet" for each addon listed is just a jumbled block of text pulled from the main description with no regard for formatting. Improvements could include showing the TOC description instead, or no description at all; showing the thumbnail only on mouseover; and listing categories using text, not arbitrarily chosen icons.

    Additionally, the mouseover popup calendar on the category listing is annoying.

    On project pages themselves, the "Project Management" link is prominently placed above basic details about the addon even if I am in no way affiliated with the project. 99% of people viewing a project page who are not an author on the project do not care about the status of the packager. The blue-on-gray links for "Download" "Install" etc are also very hard to read.

    All in all, I'd have to say the new layout is several times worse than the old layout, and that it's really frustrating when I've spent - quite literally - years providing detailed feedback to you guys at Curse about how you could make your sites more usable and accessible for people with even such minor impairments as nearsightedness, astigmatism, and colorblindness, and every change just makes things worse. :(


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