The road ahead, or how I finally got the forums off of layaway.

This is where we stand.

  • Repos are fully imported, and to my knowledge we have no open issues regarding them (please correct me if I'm wrong.)
  • Files import continues but should be finishing shortly. We've done a breadth scan in order to import files for all projects before doing depth imports.
  • Forum import is done, we've also reorganized the forums a few times, we hope it meets your satisfaction, and we hope that if there is some feedback that you'll share it :)
  • User accounts did import from the old forums, however there are still some random issues we've found that have a chance of messing things on occasion. A few things to note
    • It is possible to have your accounts renamed, please let me know if you want this. ( I do have a list of reqs that I'm going to try to knock out tomorrow.
    • If you're not able to log into the forums still let me know. Please confirm this though as we have fixed multiple issues that literally affected THOUSANDS of users each.
    • If you are logged into the forums but all your posts are on another account like 'yourname2' or 'user_134234' contact me and we'll get them merged into your main account.
  • As of yesterday afternoon projects began syndicating to Curse.com, and showing up in the Curse Client. However WAU will not officially be retired till we get a few more kinks worked out of the CC. We hope to be able to get new builds for PC AND MAC out on Monday. I've been using the mac client for the last few days and its been pretty stable and offers most of the core functionality from the windows version. If you want to help beta test drop my a PM on the forums :)

Here are a few Q&A's that might help you along:

Q: I miss the old "new posts since my last visit links" from SMF
A: While not the same there are equivalent features. on the new forums. To see all new posts available on the forums since your last visit click 'New Posts' on the sub nav bar in the forums. To see new replies to your posts you'll have to have subscriptions on the ones you want to track. And can then see all new replies that way.
Q: OMG! Fixed-width! EWEEEEE!
A: ITs come to my attention that many of you aren't really a fan of the whole fixed width thing. Therefore I'm reviewing my options on making it optional. Expect something shortly.
Q: Will/Does the new Curse Client support disembedded addons?
A: No it does not currently. Yes it will soon.
Q: What happened to the wiki and all its docs?
A: It's still available at old.wowace.com. We will be importing articles as time goes on, and you're encouraged to do the same for your projects.
Q: Where is my mac client! WHERE!! TELL ME NOW!!!!!
A: First, please don't eat me! Second, right here. We've got the crashes out, and its working pretty well. A few things though
  • Back up your addons. Just in Case(tm).
  • Not all feature present in windows are 100% implemented, but the core ones are.
  • There are still a few known bugs, but we're squashing those daily.
  • Bad auto detections should be mostly fixed now, please advise us if you find any!
  • Again, disembedded support is not in yet, please be patient while we finish it.
Q: Will the curse client continue to receive updates, or is it done?
A: Nope, it will continue to receive updates and fixes, further refinement and features all for you guys for a long time to come.
Q: How much will this whole, 'premium' thing cost?
A: For authors? Nothing, we got you on this one. For users? No more than $3.00/month or as little as $20.00 a year. More info in the FAQ linked at the bottom.
Q: Why should I pay that, or whats what money going towards?
A: A few things:
  • Pay for the service. All that bandwidth fees was eating us alive.
  • Future development and services. We want to offer you guys more, A LOT MORE.
  • No ads, not that many of you don't block them, and that wowace even has any (anymore we used to, but not now). However, this will apply to the whole of the Curse Network.
  • AuthorRewards. Guys I can't stress how cool this is. For the first time authors will be able to reap something for all the hard work they've sown. The authors deserve this hands down. More info in the FAQ linked to below.

We've also been responding to issues:

  • Forums
    • More than 10k people had issues logging in, this has been largely if not completely fixed. Please let me know if you're still not able to log in.
    • Originally it was announced that the forums would be shared with curseforge, turns out despite their quite at the time people didn't like the idea. So as promised the forums have been separated.
  • Usability & Accessibility
    • I've tried to make the site easy and intuitive to use. In some cases I've failed, especially for those with poor eyesight. I apologize.
    • I'll be adding the ability for the forum to optionally render in variable width mode.
    • Timestamps will soon be customizable, both in format and timezone.
    • Font sizes. I'm examining several other examples of cleaner typography and I plan to make some changes to this soon.
    • Colors. I wanted to keep the old site colors because it'd leave people with at least ONE thing that was familiar. Now that the site is out I will soon feel more free to experiment with them. I hope to eventually offer multiple color schemes, including high contrast, darker, and cool colors.
  • Template issues
    • Sometimes a really long title will cause things to wrap undesirably, thus forcing the sub nav off the sub nav bar. This is *bad*. I'll be truncating to fix it.
    • Diffs currently don't render properly in the change logs on some pages. They fly off the edge of the site.
    • Scroll bar when at 1280x1040. I'm aware, and do want to fix this. It's due to the images at the top right iirc.
  • Repos
    • The repositories had issues during the import, however we've fixed many(all?) of these. Please report any problems pronto and I'll beat it with a hammer until it works for you.
  • Accounts
    • When we imported accounts we imported them from the old forums, not from the svn accounts. Therefore the old svn accounts no longer work.
    • Some accounts need to be renamed and or merged on the forums. I'll be taking care of these over the next few days. Please notify me if you fall into one of these categories.

I'll be rereading this after some much needed sleep, and make edits then.

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  • Avatar of -Raz- -Raz- Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:57:20

    @stylefetisch: all i can say is read this http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18358

  • Avatar of m4kbassman m4kbassman Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:03:30

    Please make a PPC version of the MAC client... Intel one is not ALL of the macintosh... :-/

    Thanks of forgotten some of us.

  • Avatar of microbone microbone Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:35:13

    Using the curse client, as wau is dead. I´m interested in hearing about the development of the client now!

    We need to be able to choose some of the same preferences like in wau and also what source. Curse is somehow forcing release versions not build versions/newest versions. Also the responsibility should be an option. Right now some add ons are acesvn and some I know used to be that too is some dude or suddenly way outdated....

    Wau was damn easy....curse could be too if some of the naggy things gets fixed asap. Let the people choose if we want beta versions and do not force something. I lot of other things could be mentioned as well but time will show us if the curse client is going to be something we want to install or just forget...

    right now I´m on the "Just forget side"

  • Avatar of stylefetisch stylefetisch Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:26:14

    HI @ All !

    i have found an Ace updater butt is a Beta !

    Is a little better than Curse client! http://www.wowmatrix.com/

    is only an alternative :( than CURSE SHIT

  • Avatar of dummyaccount dummyaccount Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:24:57

    Ok, for the record, I just had to go make a new gmail address because my old account isn't accessible. I couldn't log in to it after "the transition", I couldn't make a new acccount using my existing email address (or name) because it was already in use, and I couldn't reset my password from curse.com because the link that that emails to me never worked (I tried several times over the past week).

    Thanks for making my life horribly inconvenient, and charging me for the privilege.

    Now to see how badly the curse client screws up my mac.

  • Avatar of Dragonir2008 Dragonir2008 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:06:35

    ah, give WAU a chance... please, curse-client ist shit

  • Avatar of rolonos rolonos Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:38:56

    Very disappointed that we are losing WAU, it was far the best updater out there. Looks like I am going to have to manually update all my addons as the CurseClient website just crashes on my fresh install of windows Vista. I think it's a shame you have teamed up with Curse, as I have always found them to have the most bug-ridden software/addons around. Looks like I will have to find another suitable site to get by addons from. Fare well all :(

  • Avatar of romracer romracer Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:38:02

    Its certainly true a lot of headaches were created by this re-invention of WowAce (not a transition, as others have noted).

    I think the single biggest blunder is the fact that the Curse Client has no facility for beta addons. Just try it. Go to curse.com, find an addon with a beta release (such as OmniCC), choose to download a specific beta version of it (such as 2.2.3 in this case) and then hit "Automatic install".

    What's installed? The last "Release" version of OmniCC. How is that intuitive? I just f*ing clicked a link after drilling down to a very specific version, and the client installed something totally different?

    What the fuck?

    This is severely prominent with the PTR and WotLK betas active. People were using WowAce because it was an easy way to keep on the bleeding edge, so that we could continue to test/play Warcraft. So much for that.

  • Avatar of Laibcoms Laibcoms Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:21:48

    @imsofly

    WAU will be retired soon. And also, there will be no more updates via WAU since it was locked already, authors wont be able to commit to it.

    Kaelten is working for Curse and has asked them if WoWAce can use their backend and stuff. Curse is hosting WoWAce now but we are still a separate community than Curse.

    No, we are going to use WoWAce.com not Curse-Gaming.com.

    (Correct me if I'm wrong btw :p )

  • Avatar of HunterZ HunterZ Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:37:13

    Kaelten: Just want to say that you've earned a lot of respect (with me anyways) for working with the community through this transition. It's very reassuring to see you communicating with us and actually addressing our concerns.

    Edit: You forgot to mention something about changelogs/RSS feeds. I know from the forum that it's on your to-do list though.