Rest In Peace: files.wowace and WowAceUpdater

As I'm sure many of you have heard or scene today marks the day where these services have been discontinued.


Rest in Peace

Today has marked the day where this page has been officially discontinued in favor of the newer systems that have recently been deployed.

While I know not everyone is happy over the changed we're going through and the current state of them I want everyone to know that what has happened has had to happen. I apologize that we didn't have enough time to get everything 100% right, but we're working as hard as we can across the board to make things right. It however is an uphill fight.

For those who don't know....

A few months ago I posted a long forum post outlining the current state of WowAce and what had to be done to allow the services to continue. I talked to authors and users alike trying to come up with the best solutions possible. And now we're here.

It's been a glorious if bumpy ride. The success we've experienced on this page and the updater have been an amazing accident, and we weren't prepared for it.

A little over a year ago Curse.com started subsidizing our servers, and for a time that was enough to get us through the worst of it. But we just kept growing.

Things reached a critical mass during 2.4. We filled up the entirety of the 1 gigabit connection we where using and ended up pushing out more than 300GB an hour. With more than 500k users downloading updates for every small change things just couldn't keep up financially.

So that leads us to today.

In Closing

We encourage all users who are looking for updates for their addons to head over to Curse.com and look around. If you're looking for Beta and or Alpha releases and are part of our testing community please join us on the new site.

If you're used to using WowAceUpdater or one of the other third party clients that used this page we encourage you to try out the new Curse Client. It's not as polished as we'd like and it will certainly receive a lot more work here in the new future.


The above text appeared this morning on files.wowace.com.

I do this with a heavy heart in many ways, but it has to be done, and not is all lost for there is much to be excited about as well. We have an exciting opportunity to reforge out past mistakes into something amazing. No it will not be pleasant, but yes we will succeed.

I'm constantly amazed by our community and I ask you all one simple question.

We're taking one step back so that we may take two steps forward, will you walk with me?


Curse Client

Curse Client for Mac

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  • Avatar of Malve33 Malve33 May 20, 2009 at 19:00 UTC - 0 likes

    Does anyone here know how to do the ummmm separate libraries with either WUU or wowmatrix? or any other way for that matter? thanks you

  • Avatar of Genghispr0n Genghispr0n Oct 26, 2008 at 01:17 UTC - 0 likes

    Kaelten,

    This may have already been brought up. If so, I apologize. One of the things I liked about the WAU was the cleanup saved variables for addons you no longer use. I believe you mentioned that you might have some influence in the development of the curse client. This would be a welcome addition.

    Thank you for all your work, time and attention.

  • Avatar of Varsity Varsity Oct 24, 2008 at 21:39 UTC - 0 likes

    I don't use any updater from a site that is covered with ads for "game guides" and "gold guides". There is a major trust issue I have in using an .exe from a site with such obvious lack of integrity. Thus, wowmatrix will never be on my machine. That said, I simply cannot believe how hard it is now to find simple updates to Fubar-related plugins. I have never been one to have tons of addons installed, but I loved the few I use.

    Is there any sort of organized and complete listing for Fubar addons anywhere? I'm still in disbelief that wowace and the wowace updater are gone. How can such a popular site not generate enough revenue to stay open and active? That defies simple economics imo.

    Basic business 101...

    Today's lesson = High traffic websites should NEVER disappear. If they do, there's something wrong with their management. If someone needs help finding sponsors, please, by all means, ASK some of us who make our own place in the economy.

    For the people destined to pick apart my comments, please allow me to add I already know this website didn't "disappear". You all know what I'm talking about without me having to be specific. I also know and understand the reasons this place isn't the same anymore (i.e. rip wowace, updater, etc.). My only point is that it doesnt need to be like this.

    People should be so lucky to have such a high volume website like this one. It is NOT a curse (no pun intended), it is a blessing. It only takes someone who knows what to do with it. I'm not suggesting I'm an expert, but damn..just something seems like it could be done to save the ways of ace addons...

    sigh

  • Avatar of cccm cccm Oct 24, 2008 at 18:22 UTC - 0 likes

    for myself im using WUU(wowuiupdater) and WoWMatrixm. wuu is alot more "wowace-like" however its still abit of work in progress, but both wuu, and wowmatrix is by far alot better then curse-client.


      • edit**

    also I just must say, curse-client is like the worst crap I've seen, to even be able to use it functionally you need to get premier. if not you'll have to press like what? 3-4times per addon instead of 1click all updates. not to mention that curse client tries to sneak in some memory addon so they can upload more info to their wowdb "that is alot more accurate and better then all other sites such as: wowhead"


    it just feels curse taking abit too much space, lots of sites wowace, worldofraids, wowdb, and I guess alot more is not under the hand of curse.

  • Avatar of utchat utchat Oct 22, 2008 at 22:05 UTC - 0 likes

    @ydrisselle

    i agree with ur comments, wowmatrix uses bandwidth and this is well documented. however with no suitable updater left out there at the moment what do you suggest we should do? it's hard enough to find an up to date addon these days let alone actually get an updater that works?

    if anyone knows of a good updater out there? i would happily un-install wowmatrix which i bet 90% of peeps are using right now

  • Avatar of Ydrisselle Ydrisselle Oct 22, 2008 at 04:05 UTC - 0 likes

    Siegmar, did you read any thread about why does the authors hate WoWMatrix? If not, then do it. If yes and you are still using that crap... then I have to say you shouldn't care about the updates or the addons, because you don't care about the authors.

  • Avatar of rustybh1 rustybh1 Oct 21, 2008 at 21:07 UTC - 0 likes

    I have to say I was getting quite excited at the thought of a new 'all-encompassing' system of updating and maintaining all my addons, but cannot believe that you guys have retired a system that actually worked while the only alternative is as poor as it is.

    Curse itself has never been great at keeping up with addon updates and now with the added bonus of an updater that is far from suitable it's got me thinking and looking for alternative, non-ACE addons.

    Add to this, we recently had a new patch to contend with, but why turn everything off that worked at such a crucial time?

  • Avatar of DARKGuy DARKGuy Oct 20, 2008 at 23:32 UTC - 0 likes

    As most of the users here say, the Curse client damn sucks.

    jWoWUpdater was the best one out there. It worked on my Windows and Linux systems, and I could happily have both installations updated with the latest versions of my addons. Now I can't. Thanks a lot.

    I'm really unhappy with this. Not only with the decision (but hey, something had to be done because of the bandwidth) but because of Curse. The whole website is heavy as hell, crappily coded, you have to go for like 3723287378 pages to get your addon (and hope it's updated and compatible with the rest of the addons and libraries you already have)... to find that it doesn't work because it depends on another addon. Then you must go hunting for the addon again, damnit.

    The curse client just DOESN'T CUT IT. It SUCKS a ton. Hell, I'd make my own if I had to... I can't stand that piece of crap. It's intrusive as hell, it has spam inside the installer that I have to disable, it starts blinking the systray and annoying me with news and all that... I don't want news, I just want my damn addons updated.

    Not only that, but the addon search and management is the worst thing ever. I'm seriously thinking into learning a new language to see if I can make my own "curse updater" without the sucking factor.

    I also found my addon (Magnet) has been moved to curse without my consent. The author info is wrong and I lost the information I put on the wiki page for it. Congratulations.

    I don't know what else to say, I'm upset, angry, mad. Not for the files.wowace.com RIP (which is sad too) but because of the end-user tools we have. I sincerely don't think I'll be developing any more addons or participating in the community... until it gets a better management, and better software quality.

    EDIT: Also, if the BETA curse client is gonna try to be the new version... where's the Linux version? only PC & Mac? now that's discrimination. I sincerely hope that the Curse developers think a little in how many people playing WoW are under Linux, and consider making a Linux version of the updater - if it ends up being better, less intrusive and less sucking.

    - DARKGuy

  • Avatar of Siegmar Siegmar Oct 20, 2008 at 19:08 UTC - 0 likes

    Using wowmatrix for a couple of days now :

    It's typically "1 click & play"  :-)

    There no more reason to keep curse client installed.

  • Avatar of Kogayon Kogayon Oct 20, 2008 at 11:39 UTC - 0 likes

    This is sad.

    RIP WAU and RIP files.wowace.com....

    Well, back the manually update everything. Curse client is just useless imo and the way he doing the updates is just clumsy. Plus the adding of CurseProfiler sucks.

    I understand why wowace made this move and I respect this. But for the users it was a bad move :(

    Best regards.