Curse and WoWInterface working together to help protect our authors and other site-users

Recently Curse and WoWInterface got together to come up with a solution for an ongoing problem. The problem in question is WowMatrix. The reasons they are a problem are many:

  • WowMatrix violates author copyright and intellectual property rights:
    • They redistribute addons without authors' permissions;
    • When they first started they would scrape the legimate sites for addons then upload them to their own site in addition to deep-linking from the sites;
    • They edited authors' files to remove donation requests and links to their home sites, etc.; and
    • They have failed on many occasions to honour authors' requests to remove addons from their application;
  • In a lot of cases the files served to users have been many versions out of date. This leads to authors having users complain about bugs, bugs that were fixed days or weeks ago in versions that are available on the legitimate sites, causing problems for both the authors and for the end-users;
  • Until the community raised a hue and cry, WowMatrix didn't even supply the authors' names as to who wrote the addon, let alone provide a link to where the addon was legitimately hosted;
  • WowMatrix leeches from the legitimate hosting sites without permission, let alone compensation. Originally, they scraped our sites so they could upload addons to their own site without permission, in addition to deeplinking from our sites. They have finally stopped hosting the addons on their own site, but they still deeplink from our sites, using our resources to run their program. Curse and WoWInterface use a lot of bandwidth every month which costs a lot of money. The way we pay our bills is through site ads, which are directly dependent on users viewing them, and premium memberships. WowMatrix bypasses our download pages, and, as a result, people are not viewing the ads. Of course, this means the ads aren't generating any revenue to pay for the bandwidth. At the rate they were going, if they were allowed to continue using our resources without any compensation, they were going to drive us right out of business. Not only are they stealing our bandwidth and preventing us from being able to recoup that loss, they also have their own ads all over their site and application. They are directly profiting from the stolen bandwidth; and
  • Due to the massive resource drains they put on our sites, we have all experienced heightened loads and weaker performance, especially on patch days. During those days they download so much from our sites that sometimes we have a hard time keeping up to the demands; thus causing legitimate users to experience problems accessing our sites. That's just flat out unacceptable.

For months now, both sites and multiple authors have been trying to come up with solutions to the problems caused by WowMatrix. However, WowMatrix just keeps ignoring authors' requests to remove their addons from their application, working around the protections we have put in place, and proving repeatedly that they have no intention of ever becoming responsible, legitimate members of the community. Instead, they choose to continue to leech off the community. Well we, Curse and WowInterface, have gotten together and between us we believe we may have found a solution to prevent them from pulling authors' addons from our sites to redistribute without permission and stealing our bandwidth any longer. Unfortunately we cannot release details on the solution, so as to keep it viable.

"Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah, get to the important question: What does this mean for me, your sites' user?" For the majority of users it should be completely transparent, you should not notice any difference whatsoever, other than improved site responsiveness during patch days. We hope that we will be able to revert the changes made to our sites eventually, if WowMatrix ever stops violating authors' copyright and ceases stealing our bandwidth and other resources.

If you were previously using WowMatrix to keep your addons updated, please use our official updaters (Curse, WoWInterface). You may also mark addons as favorites on both WoWInterface and Curse in order to be alerted when they are updated.

Kaelten
Administrator, Curse & WowAce

Cairenn
Administrator, WoWInterface

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  • Avatar of ckknight ckknight Apr 14, 2009 at 23:22 UTC - 0 likes

    Seeing as I use a mac and Kaelten (a developer of the Curse Client) uses a mac, I can safely tell you that the mac version of the Curse Client (http://www.curse.com/client/) works great.

  • Avatar of Ackis Ackis Apr 14, 2009 at 23:14 UTC - 0 likes

    @enarra: If only you could read instead of tracking those things manually....

    BFAK:Ackis,90710388,2f62cbb4c100385c86df0c1418f5ac5a2cb1a2bc3f2a18f13291792dbb3a1480

  • Avatar of enarra enarra Apr 14, 2009 at 23:10 UTC - 0 likes

    I'm also a Mac user and I am very disappointed to have to go back to tracking everything manually.

  • Avatar of Shadoweric Shadoweric Apr 14, 2009 at 22:54 UTC - 0 likes

    Yes there is, downset, you've been given links to both Curse and WoWInterface updaters.

    Furthermore, here's a revelation for you: bandwidth isn't free. Shocking, I know.

  • Avatar of Dagne Dagne Apr 14, 2009 at 22:53 UTC - 0 likes

    Well, bring back WoWAceUpdater and the problem goes away...

  • Avatar of downset downset Apr 14, 2009 at 22:37 UTC - 0 likes

    no there is not, they just want you to come here and suffer, so they can take their add revenue and laugh all the way to the bank

  • Avatar of Speijk Speijk Apr 14, 2009 at 22:04 UTC - 0 likes

    iam very greatfull to all the people who create these addons cant do it myself and didnt know wowmatrix was kinda illigal so to speak ( cant get on the english term )

    all i want to know if there is something simular to that program nice and easy to use that is legal to use? :)

  • Avatar of Ackis Ackis Apr 14, 2009 at 21:58 UTC - 0 likes

    My story:

    One day, I started getting dozens of error requests saying "ARL is broken", "ARL doesn't have wrath recipes", etc... posted on the ARL forums, in tickets, and via e-mail.

    Upon further investigation, it was determined that these people were downloading ARL via WoWMatrix.

    As a result I lost countless hours dealing with the comments/tickets.  I could've ignored them, but I try not to.

    I contacted WoWMatrix and requested that they remove all of my addons.  The response I got was asking why, to which I responded saying it was causing me support issues.  The e-mail exchanges occurred a few times, with the contact person trashing Curse, however my stance was the same.  I did not want my addons to be hosted by wowmatrix.

    Needless to say, they ignored my request.

    As a result I had to spend even more countless hours just to fix the fact that wowmatrix was bugged and was sending out a version that was not compatible with the live game.

    Basically they ignored my request, and caused me 20-30 hours of extra work.  Yes, that much work.

  • Avatar of Speijk Speijk Apr 14, 2009 at 21:57 UTC - 0 likes

    Well all i have to say is iam a computer nub but i used WoW matrix it was very easy and nice to have and a shame i cant use it no more.

    dont know if there is or you guys have a simmular program like that instead of trying to download it from the site one at a time unpacking etc. that i all dont get. hope that you guys have a same kind of program that i can use and can you pls post a link if you do thx in advance Speijk

  • Avatar of Kaelten Kaelten Apr 14, 2009 at 21:40 UTC - 0 likes

    "Why not develop a decent product? Its sad that a company as big and as rich as those behind wowinterface can't produce a simple updater."

    We're actively working on it. Increasing the quality of the client is a top priority.

    To all the people who support us in this, I thank you.

    WowAce.com & CurseForge.com Adminstrator
    Check out my new addon, OneChoice, it helps you pick quest rewards faster.
    Developer of Ace3, OneBag3, and many other addons and libraries
    Project lead and Mac developer for the Curse Client

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