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Posted by funkydude Oct 01, 2008 at 17:52 UTC

Hey folks, just taking the forums offline for an hour or for some maintenance, if all goes well it shouldn't even take that long.

EDIT: Forums will stay online, but read-only.

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The road ahead, or how I finally got the forums off of layaway.

Posted by Kaelten Oct 03, 2008 at 05:25 UTC

This is where we stand.

  • Repos are fully imported, and to my knowledge we have no open issues regarding them (please correct me if I'm wrong.)
  • Files import continues but should be finishing shortly. We've done a breadth scan in order to import files for all projects before doing depth imports.
  • Forum import is done, we've also reorganized the forums a few times, we hope it meets your satisfaction, and we hope that if there is some feedback that you'll share it :)
  • User accounts did import from the old forums, however there are still some random issues we've found that have a chance of messing things on occasion. A few things to note
    • It is possible to have your accounts renamed, please let me know if you want this. ( I do have a list of reqs that I'm going to try to knock out tomorrow.
    • If you're not able to log into the forums still let me know. Please confirm this though as we have fixed multiple issues that literally affected THOUSANDS of users each.
    • If you are logged into the forums but all your posts are on another account like 'yourname2' or 'user_134234' contact me and we'll get them merged into your main account.
  • As of yesterday afternoon projects began syndicating to Curse.com, and showing up in the Curse Client. However WAU will not officially be retired till we get a few more kinks worked out of the CC. We hope to be able to get new builds for PC AND MAC out on Monday. I've been using the mac client for the last few days and its been pretty stable and offers most of the core functionality from the windows version. If you want to help beta test drop my a PM on the forums :)

Here are a few Q&A's that might help you along:

Q: I miss the old "new posts since my last visit links" from SMF
A: While not the same there are equivalent features. on the new forums. To see all new posts available on the forums since your last visit click 'New Posts' on the sub nav bar in the forums. To see new replies to your posts you'll have to have subscriptions on the ones you want to track. And can then see all new replies that way.
Q: OMG! Fixed-width! EWEEEEE!
A: ITs come to my attention that many of you aren't really a fan of the whole fixed width thing. Therefore I'm reviewing my options on making it optional. Expect something shortly.
Q: Will/Does the new Curse Client support disembedded addons?
A: No it does not currently. Yes it will soon.
Q: What happened to the wiki and all its docs?
A: It's still available at old.wowace.com. We will be importing articles as time goes on, and you're encouraged to do the same for your projects.
Q: Where is my mac client! WHERE!! TELL ME NOW!!!!!
A: First, please don't eat me! Second, right here. We've got the crashes out, and its working pretty well. A few things though
  • Back up your addons. Just in Case(tm).
  • Not all feature present in windows are 100% implemented, but the core ones are.
  • There are still a few known bugs, but we're squashing those daily.
  • Bad auto detections should be mostly fixed now, please advise us if you find any!
  • Again, disembedded support is not in yet, please be patient while we finish it.
Q: Will the curse client continue to receive updates, or is it done?
A: Nope, it will continue to receive updates and fixes, further refinement and features all for you guys for a long time to come.
Q: How much will this whole, 'premium' thing cost?
A: For authors? Nothing, we got you on this one. For users? No more than $3.00/month or as little as $20.00 a year. More info in the FAQ linked at the bottom.
Q: Why should I pay that, or whats what money going towards?
A: A few things:
  • Pay for the service. All that bandwidth fees was eating us alive.
  • Future development and services. We want to offer you guys more, A LOT MORE.
  • No ads, not that many of you don't block them, and that wowace even has any (anymore we used to, but not now). However, this will apply to the whole of the Curse Network.
  • AuthorRewards. Guys I can't stress how cool this is. For the first time authors will be able to reap something for all the hard work they've sown. The authors deserve this hands down. More info in the FAQ linked to below.

We've also been responding to issues:

  • Forums
    • More than 10k people had issues logging in, this has been largely if not completely fixed. Please let me know if you're still not able to log in.
    • Originally it was announced that the forums would be shared with curseforge, turns out despite their quite at the time people didn't like the idea. So as promised the forums have been separated.
  • Usability & Accessibility
    • I've tried to make the site easy and intuitive to use. In some cases I've failed, especially for those with poor eyesight. I apologize.
    • I'll be adding the ability for the forum to optionally render in variable width mode.
    • Timestamps will soon be customizable, both in format and timezone.
    • Font sizes. I'm examining several other examples of cleaner typography and I plan to make some changes to this soon.
    • Colors. I wanted to keep the old site colors because it'd leave people with at least ONE thing that was familiar. Now that the site is out I will soon feel more free to experiment with them. I hope to eventually offer multiple color schemes, including high contrast, darker, and cool colors.
  • Template issues
    • Sometimes a really long title will cause things to wrap undesirably, thus forcing the sub nav off the sub nav bar. This is *bad*. I'll be truncating to fix it.
    • Diffs currently don't render properly in the change logs on some pages. They fly off the edge of the site.
    • Scroll bar when at 1280x1040. I'm aware, and do want to fix this. It's due to the images at the top right iirc.
  • Repos
    • The repositories had issues during the import, however we've fixed many(all?) of these. Please report any problems pronto and I'll beat it with a hammer until it works for you.
  • Accounts
    • When we imported accounts we imported them from the old forums, not from the svn accounts. Therefore the old svn accounts no longer work.
    • Some accounts need to be renamed and or merged on the forums. I'll be taking care of these over the next few days. Please notify me if you fall into one of these categories.

I'll be rereading this after some much needed sleep, and make edits then.

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Back from Raiding Blizzcon

Posted by Kaelten Oct 15, 2008 at 04:19 UTC

Hi guys!

For those of you who haven't seen me lurking around trying to catch up to things and manage the site today I'm glad to be back from Blizzcon.

I'm also sorry I couldn't get more done before the ready check came.

While there I got some nice loot, participated in some great encounters, and all in all had a hell of a time. I wish I had met more of you guys there, and maybe next year more of us can meet together at the Hilton for A.M.F.s and make random jokes and bad gaming puns.

First though, let's get through this week so we can move on to bigger and better things.

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Today's Site Issues Recap

Posted by Kaelten Oct 15, 2008 at 04:24 UTC

Ok guys, I'm sure many of you have noticed a few outages.

The first one was due to maxing out our rack's outbound trunk connection. We scrambled to have them run more capacity and now we're doing much better.

The second was due to some cables being knocked loose during the fix for the first....

We're sorry about them but I'm happy to say that things are looking good overall. I hope that tomorrow goes well. Wish us luck!

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Rest In Peace: files.wowace and WowAceUpdater

Posted by Kaelten Oct 15, 2008 at 04:43 UTC

As I'm sure many of you have heard or scene today marks the day where these services have been discontinued.


Rest in Peace

Today has marked the day where this page has been officially discontinued in favor of the newer systems that have recently been deployed.

While I know not everyone is happy over the changed we're going through and the current state of them I want everyone to know that what has happened has had to happen. I apologize that we didn't have enough time to get everything 100% right, but we're working as hard as we can across the board to make things right. It however is an uphill fight.

For those who don't know....

A few months ago I posted a long forum post outlining the current state of WowAce and what had to be done to allow the services to continue. I talked to authors and users alike trying to come up with the best solutions possible. And now we're here.

It's been a glorious if bumpy ride. The success we've experienced on this page and the updater have been an amazing accident, and we weren't prepared for it.

A little over a year ago Curse.com started subsidizing our servers, and for a time that was enough to get us through the worst of it. But we just kept growing.

Things reached a critical mass during 2.4. We filled up the entirety of the 1 gigabit connection we where using and ended up pushing out more than 300GB an hour. With more than 500k users downloading updates for every small change things just couldn't keep up financially.

So that leads us to today.

In Closing

We encourage all users who are looking for updates for their addons to head over to Curse.com and look around. If you're looking for Beta and or Alpha releases and are part of our testing community please join us on the new site.

If you're used to using WowAceUpdater or one of the other third party clients that used this page we encourage you to try out the new Curse Client. It's not as polished as we'd like and it will certainly receive a lot more work here in the new future.


The above text appeared this morning on files.wowace.com.

I do this with a heavy heart in many ways, but it has to be done, and not is all lost for there is much to be excited about as well. We have an exciting opportunity to reforge out past mistakes into something amazing. No it will not be pleasant, but yes we will succeed.

I'm constantly amazed by our community and I ask you all one simple question.

We're taking one step back so that we may take two steps forward, will you walk with me?


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