74 - Various small enhancements
What is the enhancement in mind? How should it look and feel?
1. people who join raid are automatically added to the players list and also to the current active loot list.
2. timed bids, with the ability to set the time, when bid is open, addon would automatically keep track of time and show countdown of the last 3 or 5 seconds.
afterward all bids would be closed and master looter would have the choice to accept or reject the winner.
3. cut down on raid channel spam, make the help message that displays with every bid optional, when people bid, instead of 2 lines of text, something like 'Smasher(23) bids, Bubbles(7) is winning.' or something of the like that'd fit on single line. maybe even let us specify what the addon posts in bidding via some kind of config interface
4. the option to use trigger keywords in raid channel in addition to whisper to the master looter, some people names aren't english keyboard friendly at all :)
5. the option to use /roll from people as a bid.
6. instead cycling through all the windows by clicking on the icon, tabs or small icon bar with icons for each window would be great.
7. version checking before skg attempts to sync, older versions of skg aren't sync compatible with new ones, it ends up being lot of chat channel spam and lag due to that. maybe an automatic warning via whisper to people who use version that is too old to sync with master looter.
8. option to hide (i don't mean remove) people on the list who aren't in the current raid group, so only the 10 or 25 raiders show on list spam and in the list window. people who are not present would still preserve their positions in the list like it is right now, but they just wouldn't be shown.
9. option to allow changes to the current list only by current master looter.
Please provide any additional information below.
Thanks guys for considering these, imho SK is the fairest loot distribution system when it comes down to half pug raid groups, and i'd like to thank you for taking your time to implement it as an addon.
as most of these could be viewed as optional 'enhancements' some kind of check buttons or something could be used to turn them on or off in the settings.
the raid channel keywords could be something like !bid !retract and !help to bid, retract bid, and get help message via whisper from the master looter.
thanks,
Dingo
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keller999 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:12:43"3. cut down on raid channel spam, make the help message that displays with every bid optional, when people bid, instead of 2 lines of text, something like 'Smasher(23) bids, Bubbles(7) is winning.' or something of the like that'd fit on single line. maybe even let us specify what the addon posts in bidding via some kind of config interface"
Also awesome would be an option for silent bidding. So, everything about who bids and who's currently winning is sent to officer chat. The opening bidding announcement, along with the winner, is sent to raid chat. I've mod'd my copy to do this already, but a snazzy checkbox would be great too - maybe 'Silent Bidding Mode'?
To go along with that, I added a 'Confirm?' button to the bidding panel. Once all bids are in, if the officers feel like the winner might not be the best user of an item, we give them a chance to pass if they so choose. It looks like this, and is done in whispers.
You are the high bidder.
Other bidders:
Bidder1
Bidder2
Bidder3
Are you sure you want to suicide for this item? Reply with 'yes' or 'retract'.
If they say yes, we close bidding and give them the item. If they say 'retract', the usual happens.
Would it be useful for me to work up a diff file for my changes, or would you prefer to develop such things on your own?
-toby
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Zhinjio Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:09:04Let me see if I can address your suggestions here. First of all, thanks! I appreciate the feedback. Some of these are great suggestions...
players list, yes. I can see that. Currently active raid list? No way. Furthermore, if you have multiple raid leaders/assists who are running the addon, who "takes the lead" to add people in? If there isn't some throttling done there, you'll get multiple add requests. Nightmare. Don't think I can do this one.
This has been suggested before, and I've thought about it. It would *have to be* optional. Too many instances I've been have bids/winners retracted after the winner is announced to take care of someone having bid that shouldn't, or officer override, or whatever. Adding this to my work list. Admittedly, it has lower priority than some of the important bugs I'm still trying to track down.
Yeah, I agree. Shortening/limiting the spam would be a good addition. Or maybe a toggle for "low spam" option, or some such.
Useful, I agree. Seems this would be *adding* spam instead of limiting it. I'm not sure how having non-english characters in the names is hurting or helping this situation, though.
Hmm. I'll think about this one s'more.
Yes. agreed. The next rewrite (*sigh*) already has this as part of the design spec, and my early mockups of the new UI have this in place.
In the next rewrite (I keep saying that like its going to happen, don't I) there will be a panel much like the current sync panel that shows version numbers as well, so you can more actively administrate who is still using older code and nag them. I'll look into cutting down some of the spam as well.
This option already exists. "Show raid list only" in options.
Hrm. This would again have to be a toggle, and I would suggest it would little used. Most of the raids I've been on have a master looter who doesn't actually use SKG except to bid, and the "SKG person" who handles the bidding. Having one more person involved sort of guarantees that you have some time delay for someone to complain and fix bidding/suicide issues before the loot gets sent to the wrong person. I suppose this creates other problems as well. I'll consider it.