EG Leader
Elitist Group Leader will be a plugin specialized for people who do pug groups or raid leaders who run with inconsistent rosters and want an easier way of sorting out who is interested as well as their gear status. It will require Elitist Group, and it will take advantage of all the database and syncing it already provides.
The feature lists is looking something like:
One tab that shows a columned view of your database by role (Tank/Healer/Physical DPS/Caster DPS), it will also show the rating you've left for them and a separate rating that is an average of your friends or guild.
The second tab will be the actual raid creation one, you can setup a keyword (!eg for example) or possibly it will be based off key words so "Resto Druid" would trigger it. When people match the keyword it will add them to a list and request their data through comms or it will pull it from the database if it fails to find the data. After that they move to a second panel which shows name, spec, gear/enchant/gem status, average item level and your rating (again) and a button to either invite or decline them. If you decline you can just set a simple message to send them like "Sorry, don't need another tank." and it will whisper them.
I might also include simple filters, people need at least X% accurate gear (0-80%) or X item level or it auto declines. But I'm still on the fence if this is a good idea or not.
The third tab will be your current raid. It'll show the same basic data that the first tab does with your database. It will also show alt specs, but I need to play with Elitist Group first to see about getting support for them added in.
Still fleshing out the idea before I start work on it. Opinions, suggestions, hate comments are welcome.
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Posted Aug 25, 2010Not going to happen, I don't really have time to actually do this anymore, or motivation.
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Posted Aug 18, 2010Any word on the status of this project? Really like the idea, and I love EG :D
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Posted Apr 1, 2010Message: Interface\AddOns\ElitistGroup\modules\report.lua:159: bad argument #1 to 'format’ (string expected, got nil)
Time: 04/01/10 15:47:02
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Interface\AddOns\ElitistGroup\modules\report.lua:159: in function <Interface\AddOns\ElitistGroup\modules\report.lua:22>
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Posted Feb 6, 2010There's nothing to download, it doesn't actually work yet :p
You can't (easily) check online status, but lockout tracking is an interesting idea I'll think about.
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Posted Feb 6, 2010Downloading it now to try it out, but this looks like a great way to track people. Not sure you need the auto-replies as long as the people have been sorted and some kind of online indicator lets you know they are around. Going to trade chat is the weapon of last resort, and at that point you should be using the /eg on them to determine reasonable competency before inviting anyway. One thought I had after the fact was a sort of 'pug reformer' of 'saved raid' etc. I run about 6 raids now each week, and with the size of the current tier of content its just not possible to clear it all in a sitting(esp for a pug!) but reforming requires disparate people to all be online at the same time again...a horrific task to track, so no one I know bothers. Is there a way to create a tab that lists your current lockouts, and then can be clicked on to show who was in that raid? The coup de grace of course would be to tie that so some mechanic that checks online status and a button to reinvite with a message "icc25 pug X/X/10".
Dridzt I think you are looking at this tool and eg from a backwards perspective. Good group make the game fun, as a RL I don't exclude people for not having experience in a tier, but i DO boot them for inactive metas, no enchants, or pvp gear in a pve environment. I would argue the inverse of your premise: tool like this aid the formation of niche environments/groups that can in the future REFORM and enjoy content together. There are 6 guys who are part of a 10man raiding guild who now come exclusively to one of my icc25 raids as a group. These guys would never have seen this content, and they got into the group because EG let me set a note to remind me that XXX from guild OMGTHEYFAIL actually was a decent player and should get the invite next week. Its all about community and the pug is the best expression of it...I get the feeling that if some one came to your basketball court and started a league because of the interest from all the pickup game players you would feel something had been lost there too.
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Posted Jan 26, 2010Interesting, ill definately keep an eye on this one.
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Posted Jan 24, 2010Not sure, I'm not thrilled with auto diverting whispers. Although, it's probably better than flat out blocking the whispers that match the filters.
Will see
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Posted Jan 24, 2010You think there is a way to include a window for whispers in the total view. (maybe on the bottom or top) So once you start making a raid you could record or divert the whispers for the time being. And also clean up them once the raid is done or with a toggle on/off.
Anyways good luck.. already like EG and hope this plugin is a good addition.
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Posted Jan 24, 2010This does nothing that EG or the EG summary does already. Which is fine if you don't like EG, but that's not really specific to this plugin, you're talking about EG and inspect type mods in general.
It doesn't matter if you play 2 hours or 20 hours. If you are competent and don't do things like gem Spell Power as a Warrior, odds are EG isn't going to flag you as doing something bad. It's not fair to categorize it as another GS
[edit] And re-filters, I really doubt I'll add those. It's an idea, but unless somebody makes a fairly convincing argument they won't likely be added.
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Posted Jan 24, 2010For the vast majority of pug leaders and puggers affected this will work as a "better" gearscore.
What this means is that while you can delude yourself that you are merely organizing and providing information to allow people to make better choices the predominant use will be as a tool to make "safe" choices _for you_.
One could argue that a better tool suggesting (but in actuality making) choices for pugs is preferable to a worse tool, and that eventually better screening (no matter the means) = more productive raids (faster / easier kills) "everyone" wins.
Thing is a game shouldn't be a sweat-shop and the end result is a step in the direction of making pugs not a lower quality alternative to guilds for people gearing up or learning (and in the process fucking it up occasionally) but instead the meeting place of bored raiders and raider alts to run content they outgear and out-know when on standby/rotated/their pro guild doesn't visit that tier / difficulty / raidsize anymore but x/y items are coveted.
I'm not sure if this constitutes hate comment (I would hope not) and personally due to role and gear/achievs (comfortably ahead of the pug curve at least) am not affected by gearscore and clones if I ever wanted to pug. (not very likely)
It promotes segregation that's it I guess.
One of the things that's kept me playing for 5years is niches in the wow community where people can create their digital avatar for a few hours free of the constraints of corporeal existence and be the "hero" or "villain" they imagine in an environment where it costs nothing (but a little of your "free" time) to be selfless.
This rush of HR manager and stock broker wannabes in WoW leaves a bile taste,
but I guess it's the wave of the future :)